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  • Mon, Jan 1 2001 12:00 AM

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    2011 Senate Bill 5124 (Modifying elections by mail provisions)

    Introduced in the Senate on January 14, 2011

    Click here to view bill details.
  • Sun, Jan 16 2011 11:47 AM In reply to

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    Re: 2011 Senate Bill 5124 (Modifying elections by mail provisions)

    The insidiousness of this bill is overwhelming: even if a county down the road determines that they would rather go back to polling places instead of the all-mail fraud they are pushing now, some legislators want to deny them that choice.  Why?  What is the real purpose behind this push to shut off the only means of conducting open and honest elections in Washington State?

    The fear we have in Pierce County is that these election thieves will wipe out the last bastion of integrity for voting in this state.  In spite of the numbers the politician throw up about this process, all mail ballots don't really save the system any money.  When you factor in all the man-hours to count the ballots, the number of times that "re-marked" ballots have to be handled, and the embarrassingly long time it takes to get the election results, the overall cost soars.

    I like seeing people with their ID's showing when they vote.  There is no such assurance with the mail-in ballots.  I would rather see the
    balloting return to polling places, where we attach a face to the ballot, where citizenship requires getting off one's duff and going to
    the polls.  And we know who wins an election on election night instead of weeks later after King County finds another stack of "lost" ballots.

    With elections being determined by as few as dozens of votes, we don't have as much confidence that only eligible voters are actually voting, and the fraudulent registrations already uncovered does not give us any confidence that it isn't still happening.

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  • Tue, Feb 1 2011 6:35 PM In reply to

    Re: 2011 Senate Bill 5124 (Modifying elections by mail provisions)

    @edgwyn: As a former poll judge, I can attest that people didn't have to show IDs when they voted, except for the first time. Vote-by-mail is actually more secure, because the elections staff are sticklers for matching your signature. People are challenged when they change the way they sign or become frail and sign differently.

    This state has almost no proven election fraud. There were about 10 people who voted in 2008 when they shouldn't have. One man was following his deceased wife's wishes. No one can steal an election with 10 votes, so you might as well get over this argument.

    King County accounted for every single ballot it received in the last election. You can't do better than 100%. Again, get over it. Here in WA State, only eligible voters are voting.

    Now why don't you devote yourself to registering new voters? Or working to improve your voter turnout? Or finding better candidates? Surely you could do better than baseless complaining.

  • Wed, Feb 2 2011 7:45 PM In reply to

    Re: 2011 Senate Bill 5124 (Modifying elections by mail provisions)

    Sarajane46th:
    This state has almost no proven election fraud
     

     

    Except for the ballots found in a car in parked in a parking garage for three months, or all the homeless who used Seattle's Fed building as an address.

    Oh and let us not forget the military ballots that didn't get counted because they arrived too late from Iraq to be counted..

    Shall I go on?

     

     

     

    I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.
    - John Wayne in the Shootist.

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