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    2010 House Bill 2711 (Regarding the constitutional right of self defense)

    Introduced in the House on January 13, 2010

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  • Wed, Jan 13 2010 12:53 PM In reply to

    Re: 2010 House Bill 2711 (Regarding the constitutional right of self defense)

     Representative Mark Shea - a voice of reason!

    Finally, someone in government is looking out for the welfare and rights of the people.

    Sadly, he doesn't stand a chance against the liberals who want to take away our individual rights and make us helpless.

  • Thu, Jan 21 2010 1:30 AM In reply to

    Re: 2010 House Bill 2711 (Regarding the constitutional right of self defense)

     since when did this right  ever go away? this nothing but flag waving "hey look over there politics." focus on real issues.

     

    I can think of countless examples in Sopkane where a home owner shot a intruder...and nothing legal happened to the homeowner..

     

    this is just idiot grand standing.....solve the budget problem....save some jobs...

    DO YOUR JOB

  • Thu, Jan 21 2010 4:45 AM In reply to

    Re: 2010 House Bill 2711 (Regarding the constitutional right of self defense)

     Seems to me that Shea is just trying to keep our right to bear firearms as a matter of law.  Otherwise you'll never know when the dems will try and take it away.

    Actually this is a perfect bill.  If it fails, all he has to do is point to this and say the dems are not for self-defense, they are for the criminals and they want you too to be a victim.

     

    Keep Shea and vote the rest of the bat-rastards out

     

    I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.
    - John Wayne in the Shootist.

  • Fri, Jan 22 2010 4:05 AM In reply to

    Re: 2010 House Bill 2711 (Regarding the constitutional right of self defense)

    Hey easternvoice, Check out Senate Bill 6396. They are trying to take it away along with our 4th amsndment rights. Thank God someone has the balls to sumbmitt this type of legislation to try to protect those rights against those who don't give a damn about our Constitution..

  • Sat, Jan 23 2010 8:54 PM In reply to

    Re: 2010 House Bill 2711 (Regarding the constitutional right of self defense)

     first  the bill hasn't passed...secondly....where does it say in the 4th Amendment you have a right to own fully automatic  military style weapons. What possible purpose do they have?  You need them to hunt? If you're that poor of shot...you can't use the bathroom in my house. This merely places more of these weapons out where they don't belong in the hands of possilbe loons or to  be stolen and used in the next drive by.  You wanna own a dozen shotguns, 100 pistols, 2,000 rifles fine...that's protected by the 4th Amendment...you wanna play with assault rifles and machine guns....go enlist.. By the way learn to spell....unless of course..English is your second language.

  • Sun, Jan 24 2010 3:06 AM In reply to

    Re: 2010 House Bill 2711 (Regarding the constitutional right of self defense)

    easternvoice:

     first  the bill hasn't passed...secondly....where does it say in the 4th Amendment you have a right to own fully automatic  military style weapons.

     

      Firstly, this isn't a bill banning assault weapons, it is a bill maintaining the right of self-defense.

    Secondly why shouldn't a person own a military style weapon?  I see nothing wrong with it.  (though, I can't support the right for private indiviuals to own automatice weapons only because they can be stolen and used on the streets and the bad guys don't need more help on that. However, there is a license requirement somewhere on the hand of $5000 a year for the privledge of owning one.

     If a person wants to legally own a weapon that looks like an M-16, why not?  If a guy wants to legally own a 1911 style .45 why not?  HOW DOES IT HURT YOU? 

    I'm sorry you have a phobia against firearms, and "scarey" looking weapons.  However, why not channel the energy you have in writing these postings into writing your dem senators and represenatives about cutting  useless state programs.  At least you will be doing something creative.

    However this bill is about self-defense and restates self-defense is good and proper, and who can be against that?

    DK

     

    I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.
    - John Wayne in the Shootist.

  • Sun, Jan 24 2010 3:47 PM In reply to

    Re: 2010 House Bill 2711 (Regarding the constitutional right of self defense)

    If you are safe with a gun then you should have a permit to use and have one. Criminals should not have any weapons. You should have the right to defend yourself.

  • Fri, Feb 5 2010 3:18 AM In reply to

    Re: 2010 House Bill 2711 (Regarding the constitutional right of self defense)

     What I wonder is..how did you folks ever  protect yourselves or have champion for  you until Matt Shea came along? Were you all just helpless in the woods until Matt showed up? According you..everything has been taken away...If Matt SHea really had a clue about what is going on....he'd spend far more time..figuring out how do we put more Washington residents back work and keep jobs in state, how  get a handle on the budget issue without a mountain of fee or tax increases. But no..just this pile of grandstanding Tea Party stuff that would never pass, I doubt it would fly with a Republican majority. Some of these stuff is as goofy as the idea of the creation of COlumbia, the state from the Cascades to Idaho.

    Where a relatively CONSERVATIVE paper like the SpokesmanReview of SPokane  says this stuff is bad....it's in trouble...

     

    WHich would be the 49th poorest state in Union,  love to see what those high schools look like.

  • Fri, Feb 5 2010 9:55 AM In reply to

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    easternvoice:

     But no..just this pile of grandstanding Tea Party stuff that would never pass, I doubt it would fly with a Republican majority. Some of these stuff is as goofy as the idea of the creation of COlumbia, the state from the Cascades to Idaho.

     

     Just as goofy as DC wanting to be a real state also and them finding out their firearm band was unconstituional? As goofy as Gregoire who promotes the "environment" and then flies to Copenhagen (bet that didn't take any carbon) while the state is drowning in red ink?  As goofy as the first election against Rossi, in which she and the democrat party stole the election?

    Now you mention a good point, that Shea should be searching for ways to put people back to work, well why?  This isn't a socialist government and though 1 in 6 people are working for the government in this state, it isn't up to the government to hire people.  It is up to the government to make this a "work-friendly" place so businesses want to come to the state and provide jobs for the rest of us.  Something the current administration and legislative bodies are absolutely contrary too.  For that I say Vote the bat-rastards out!

    We the people have not had a voice in the legislature since Booth Gardner (I didn't like John all that much), and probably not since Dan Evans.  With Shea, we at least have someone who listens to us and someone who represents the rest of us.  What is a shame is that he is in the minority and has just about as much power to change what is going on here in WA as the rest of us.  That is why we the people "ARE AS MAD AS HELL AND WE WON'T PUT UP WITH IT ANY LONGER!"  Vote the bat-rastards out.  I wish I could get a chant going on this board loud enough to be heard in Olympia and then DC so that it is heard by both parties...  "Vote the bat-rastards out!" 

    People are hurting here, and losing their homes and all our legislature will do is try to take away our constitutional rights and pass stupid laws like "making biodegradable plastic bags green in color."  And you voice are saying you do not want the citizens to have the right to self-defense?  Now tell me who is out of touch.

     

    DK

     

    I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.
    - John Wayne in the Shootist.

  • Sat, Feb 6 2010 6:13 PM In reply to

    Re: 2010 House Bill 2711 (Regarding the constitutional right of self defense)

    .....unless of course..English is your second language

     

    You are a typical liberal changing the issue to personal attacks rather than discussing the issue.  Sorry I am not as perfect as you and I make typos now & then.  Get over it.

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