Washington Votes Forum

Introduced in the House on January 16, 2008

The vote was 64 in favor, 31 opposed and 3 not voting

(House Roll Call 0 at House Journal 0)

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Science is out. Power is in. This bill is sponsored by the person that led the charge of the bio-fuel brigade and ignored all science brought to his attention. The only thing that will do is raise the price of your groceries and fuel. It is time that we talk rational about ecology and stop sacrificing our future prosperity on the altar of flim flam.

Science is out. Power is in. This bill is sponsored by the person that led the charge of the bio-fuel brigade and ignored all science brought to his attention. The only thing that will do is raise the price of your groceries and fuel. It is time that we talk rational about ecology and stop sacrificing our future prosperity on the altar of flim flam.

Let me get this straight: 1. Create a huge new government bureaucracy; 2. Roll back emissions to HALF of what they were EIGHTEEN YEARS AGO; and 3. Create 25,000 "green" jobs to make up for the five million real ones that will leave the state. Obviously the comedy writers have been keeping busy while they were out on strike. This would be hysterically funny if it weren't for the fact that your legislature is likely to pass it. Washington voters are getting what they deserve for sending this bunch of clowns to Olympia. They are truly drunk with power and money.

This State is rapidly turning from blue to green. Legislators are tripping over each other to see who can submit the dumbest amendment. Hang on to your wallets!

The idiots voting for this bill will eventually bankrupt the State and ruin the economy in the belief they are saving the Planet, or maybe they just want to exercise their power. They need to be stopped!

Arrogance runs rampant in Olympia. These political prostitutes think they own the state and will do everything in the power they think they have to screw it up for the citizens and for business. Vote every one of them out of office and get someone, anyone in there with some brains for a change. They must have sawdust for brains.

Wow!!!!! This is fantastic!!!!!! Yeah!!!!!! To bad this bill isn't more strict against those evil earth-haters and their big Hummers.

Legislative stupidity has been on the rise since 1992 just like emissions from the tens of thousands of cars that have moved into this state since then. If the gas bags who are trying to make the ridiculous claims that global warming and ice age cooling have something to do with humans would bottle that gas we could pretty much end harmful emissions. This bill is the latest example of the inmates being in charge of the asylum. I don't think any comments made here will have any chance of stopping our female on steroids governor from signing this bomb, but what the hell.

If 99 percent of aeronautical engineers said the plane you were about to get on was going to crash, would you still get on it? 99 percent of all climate scientists say that global warming is very real and is mostly due to man-made causes, so why don't folks want to believe it? This is not a left or right wing issue. My thanks to anyone involved in making this legislation happen.

The eco-terrorists are running the government. Studies have shown that if EVERYONE stopped driving their car, CO2 emissions would drop by less than 1%. Ther is no man made global warming. "99% of climate scientists agree" is false and a LIE.

I want to know how they are going to charge by the mile? Will that be a tax, and will it be imposed on tourist? Toll booths at every corner? I believe that if we all STOP BREATHING today, we could cut ALL of our carbon emissions instantaneously. Problem cured. Somebody, get real. This proposed legislations on "green technology" and cutting emissions is not doing a damn thing, in fact I belive a lot of the technology, and laws are creating more pollution, and issues than it solves. People don't see "global warming" as an issue, because its not an issue. We see it as "Chicken Little" or as a little "Boy who cried Wolf", and as the normal Earth cycle that it is. Man's impact is exaggerated and without definitive scientific data. Every one points to the "ICE" but ice study s are new, and other factors could affect that research more than we currently understand and I believe it will require more research before it can ever be accepted as definitive EARTH temperature measurements over eons of time. Beyond that man's ability to manipulate the Earth's climate is outside of his reach and technological ability at this time to control, even regionally. We are skeptical, and want more scientific evidence before we commit to a course of action that may bring more harm than good, or is economically unsound, and without real scientific study. Science first, then solutions based on scientific research that make an actual change. Not lets experiment and see if it fixes the perceived problem. I believe in sound management of all our resources, and protecting the environment. But right now this is one issues that a lot of people we are all going off on half cocked! Derick Bonham, TX

You have to be some sort of complete failure at science to still refute manmade climate change today. I'm guessing these are the people who never paid attention in 4th grade science class to the basic fact that the 27 billion tons of CO2 put into the air each year traps heat. 95% of climatologists agree with it, and unless you're a climatologist, stop arguing against it with inane conspiracy theories. We need to act soon on greenhouse emissions, while it's economically feasible, because trying to deal with the impacts on unabated climate change 50 years from now will be huge otherwise. And as for those who would cry wolf about the economic costs, consider this: a lot of our fossil fuel usage hinders the economy; fuel efficiency, ethanol, and road tolling can boost the economy. On the other hand, dealing with the impacts 50 years from now, if we don't do anything, could cost around 30% of GDP. This is from an MIT study. So don't refute this stuff unless you know what you're talking about.

Please site your sources. I've never seen any documentation validating the claim that 99% of climate scientists believe in global warming and that it is mainly due to mankind.

Today is a record setting coldest day in Seattle for June two weeks before the offical start of summer. Also today, the east coast is experiencing triple diget degree weather very early in the season. Global warming effects the entire globe but not always in the same way. This isn't the sky is falling. This isn't crying wolf. It's opening your eyes and seeing what is happening to the world we call home.

Come on now. In the 1970’s the earth was on the verge of a “Global Ice age” and swarms of ‘knowledgeable’ scientists, some who are still pontificating today on the warming craze, flocked to agree and predict the frozen demise of the earth and all because of mankind and our negative impact on the environment. Just as quick to swarm, were the politicians with their incessant drooling and endeavors to get their hands deeper in our pockets with tax after tax all touted to be able to correct man’s impact on the weather. Then comes your Global Warming idiocy; and this time, our Carbon Footprint is to blame. Isn’t it interesting how every time, it’s the big brother government who offers the path to salvation, all for a ‘miniscule’ increase in taxes, regulations, and restrictions on the capital market. Lots of money to be made on this, (and the next) ‘taxable’ calamity they can brain wash you and your ilk into believing is caused by whatever. Even more money to be made by scaring the wits out of fools like you so you can dig your hand deeper into your pockets and dole out more tax money to fix another ‘scary’ problem that the almighty government promises to fix by coming to the rescue with taxes. What are they going to buy with that money? Why carbon credits of course! Then they can strike a bargain with ole mother nature, Satan, or whoever else pops up with a promise of salvation from the looming, man-made weather disaster. The saddest point here, is that the vast hordes of sheep falling onto the bandwagon of Greenhouse gases and carbon footprints don’t even realize just how stooopid they sound. Bend over fool, I’ll give you a carbon footprint right in your “posterior rumpus endus” where you store your brain! Notice now, how the story changes as science figures out that the world isn’t actually warming. Now, “Global Warming” has morphed into “Climate Change”…The next politically correct buzzword to frighten the witless out of more tax money. There is just one other problem. Although it's obvious that thousands of scientists from multiple disciplines throughout the world couldn't be wrong, it now seems that they are. This is not the rant of some oil industry paid-for study, but the admission by none other than Rajendra Pachauri, the head of the IPCC, which represents over 2,500 environmental and climatological scientists. It seems that, sadly, facts are stubborn little things that won't go away, and scientific measurement is far more accurate than man-made computer projections and theories. The problem began with a long awaited set of studies of precise global ocean temperatures made by over 3000 buoys, combined with atmospheric measurements from no less than 8 orbiting NASA satellites. Our expectation was that this would really end the debate. The discussion would simply debate "just how bad is it?". It didn't turn out that way. All of the instrumentation said the opposite. Global warming had inexplicably stopped, and the earth has been cooling slightly since the late 1990's and will continue to do so for at least the next 10 to 15 years. Impossible, you say? Well it seems that global warming researchers, while taken aback at the data, are still scientists. And scientists, while sometimes led astray, tend to stick with science, not political correctness or popular opinion. That's the reason why the conclusions were not found by NASA or the Bush administration, by Exxon or by anti-global-warming forces, but by climate scientists themselves. A team led by none other than uber climate researcher Noel Keenlyside, supported by the UN's climate data analysis systems came to that conclusion. Faced with overwhelming evidence, Rajendra Pachauri admitted to Reuters earlier this year that there had been no global warming at any time in this century. So does that mean that global warming was just a fantasy? Of course is isn't. That there's no need to reduce our carbon footprint? Absolutely not. But with American families reeling from 4 dollar gasoline that will just go higher, and a carbon footprint that punishes the most advanced nations while rewarding the worst polluters, it's time to take a common sense pause from this fanatical "they sky is burning" panic. It's time to plan a strategy that will work, not punish. Let's begin with an idea I have to credit to columnist Charles Krauthammer who suggested that we adjust our gas tax to keep fuel at 4 dollars per gallon. That number seems to be the magic level that is effectively pushing Americans into smaller, more fuel efficient cars and reducing overall motor vehicle use. Voluntarily. Without government mandates. If we impose a similar tax on coal and natural gas, we'll find that home and office energy efficiency will be at the top of everyone's list. That tax money can then be mandated for use in alternative energy research and development. Let's demand that the developing nations, including China and India place carbon emission reduction at the top of their national agendas as well. That alone will contribute substantially to a reduction in greenhouse emissions. And let's put some teeth behind that. While a tax on polluting Chinese goods may have other repercussions, we shouldn't allow other nations to blatantly despoil the atmosphere while we continue to fund their filthy manufacturing plants and punish our own families in the process. Finally, let's get serious about alternative energy. Global warming isn't the problem. Oil and coal are. If we recognize that, and spend the money we're now wasting on politically correct half-hearted fixes, we'll have solutions that work. Not mindless ethanol, but real alternative energy that will stop the flow of oil and coal and in turn will take care of carbon emissions without artificial legislative mandates and partisan politics. We've been given a break. Those who choose to accept science will see the window of opportunity to do this right for a change. Those who bury their head in the (warming) sand will live to see a nation still arguing over global warming, and suffering from ongoing draconian curbs 20 years from now. Seize the opportunity created by this global cool off. It may not last, but it has given us the chance to change our world in an effective, intelligent way. Let's not blow it this time.

Google "31,000 scientists warming"

 Is isn't true that 99% of scientist's have bought into Al Gore's global warming myth.

Please stop watching NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN to inform you. Do some research and you will find over 650 scientist's-more than those at the corrupt United Nations who stand to gain personally by perpetuating this myth-are skeptical that man has contributed to global warming.

 Isn't it true that people, humans, have to be ALIVE in order to bolster the economy?

And isn't it true that people have to create wealth in order to bolster the economy?

And isn't it further true that as the government spends trillions upon trillions of dollars it doesn't have to fund programs based upon things that are NOT PROVEN TO BE TRUE not only lacks commion sense but will inevitably lead to more poor people who will not contribute to the economy but rather depend on the government for their very existence?

The man-made global warming hoax is the perfect scam for those in power to have more control over people's lives.

 

You know this thread is about a 2008 bill.