Taxing & Spending

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

wa7jn — Tue, 04 May 2010 20:38:42 GMT

It is about time this Gov. go away we need to remove her.

If you think this bill only effects the rich think again. The State has tried to give us a state income tax 6 times

since 1889. If you let them get there foot in the door we will have both a state sales tax and state income tax

and be the highest tax state in the country. Lets stop this.

James Nelson Enumclaw, WA.

PS. if we get this I am moving away from this state and Texas will be my home state.

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

clyde — Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:39:39 GMT

i have a saying i tell people when it comes to voting...if the politicians say it`s something they need, vote against it!

if they come out and tell us it`s not good for the state/country, vote for it! don`t forget...they made the rules, they can change them! whenever they over spend, due to their 'grade school' type power struggle, we, the people, pay for their mistakes!

this lady senator, from tacoma, that`s sponsoring this bill, does it every session! been doing it for yrs...i actually think lisa brown from spokane is the one behind the scenes, pushing it, and the lady senator from tacoma, is just doing what she is told!...c

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

nperea — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:04:27 GMT

HIWATT - This is probably one of the best posts I've seen in this forum. Cheers and thanks for setting it straight in a very knowledgeable and cordial manner. SScott

SScott - your post below just sums up completely how well the Democrats marketing works on voters in our state. They want you to believe that all R's are like George Bush/ Cheney and obviously it works. They sell you on their warm & fuzzy mantra that they are the good guys, saving the planet, taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor and that labor unions are really working on behalf of workers. It makes it real easy for people like you to turn around and feel like you're on the "good" team (D's) and call the "other side" (R's) mean names. Please remember that "your" team has had the control and has spent us into this budget mess.

SScott - your post here is just full of anger, chest-pumping and ignorant name-calling. For a party that is supposed to be so compassionate, you sure are full of hate.

SScott's post - "Mr Dim Bulb,

Your comment is not only erroneous but is patently offensive. Labor unions built the middle class, which conservatives have managed to almost eliminate. California immigrants are by far the minor factor in population growth in Washington. No one is more elitist than a Republican. If you don't like it here, move to Montana. or Florida, original home of the redneck. Or the Tri-Cities, home of the knee-jerk cronies of Timmy Eyman, that loser Dino Rossi and the crooked BAW.

Sscott"

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

Lainie59 — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 04:17:15 GMT

Implementing a state income tax isn't the worst plan of the legislator's plans. Climate change regulations are going to make millions of us destitute if they don't kill us first.

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

Lainie59 — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 04:09:55 GMT

HIWATT: I completely agree with you. I worked for the federal government for over 25 years and found the main purpose of the union was to provide a comfortable office with refreshments for those who didn't want to do any work. Managers and supervisor's hands were tied in trying to fire anyone no matter how incompetent, lazy, belligerent and worthless they were.

At least we weren't forced to join the union although that may have changed since I retired. But all employees who actually wanted to work and accomplish something were affected by the union because they are the ones that had to take up the slack for the non-producers.

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

HIWATT — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:38:59 GMT

When you have worked for the state of Washington for 26 years in the budget arena, as I have, you will have a better idea of the real world, my abusive liberal friend. I notice that it is only liberals who feel compelled to name-call and be derisive rather than focus on the facts.

My comments are accurate. You can look up the facts. Thousands of state employees now pay dues to the unions, which were given power by Gov. Locke (who negotiated away such things as seniority) which many state employees who are about to lose their jobs (in spite of paying onerous dues to these unions) could have relied upon in the past. These dues are fed directly back to the liberal democrat party in this state, which if you take a look around you, have not done the citizens here a tremendous amount of good. Record deficits, collapsing infrastructure - impossible to blame conservatives or republicans for any of that in Washington, my friend. Again, having lived here for 40 years, a graduate of the University of Washington, and working the state finance for 26 years - I daresay I have a better grasp of reality than you seem to in this regard.

You are not only wrong, but unable to admit when you are so. Also, your pattern of abuse and insults only continues to prove that the liberal left is unable to deal with the facts.

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

sscott — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:01:57 GMT

Mr Dim Bulb,

Sscott

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

jrreid — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:19:42 GMT

You can't say it any better than than Winston Churchill:

"I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like

a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."

May I suggest the State live within its budget. Yes, I know that will mean

some cuts but I almost can't afford the taxes on my home now much less

more taxes.

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

HIWATT — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:29:20 GMT

Having lived in this state for 40-plus years now and having watched it deteriorate at a steady pace since the influx of Californicators started coming in, it is no surprise to me that the elitists and humanists are now attempting to drive out the common citizen through increased taxes and more government control. I have been sickened especially in the past ten years as the Locke administration sold us all down the road by giving the unions so much power, including so much money, that is directly funneled right back into the big government pockets of the D's in this state.

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

glhadley — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:05:41 GMT

Taxpayer98422:
As the tax laws now stands those that own property, drive cars, and own businesses pay the lions share of the bill. While those who do not own property, depend on public transportation, and don't work get the benefits but don't get the bill. I think we should all pay into the system at least a little, and state income tax does just that.

I think you don't understand how income taxes get set up. There are healthy deductions which mean that roughly 35-40% of Americans pay no federal income tax and, in fact, many receive back a negative income. My suspicion is that a state income tax would simply charge some percentage of the federal which would mean that 35-40% would pay nothing.

For renters, it is not the landlord who is "paying" the property tax but it is included in the rent.

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

leftcoastjunkie — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:00:30 GMT

Washington Citizens were warned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzGsFOO80T8 only it's 8 bazillion now

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

M_DragonKnight — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:50:35 GMT

As the law stands now, those who buy things other then food pay taxes. I own property, and I drive and I do not want to pay property tax. I am so adamant about this I am looking to move out of state. IF they ever shut-down sales tax I would not mind, but, they are not.

And you are right about those who own businesses pay a lion's share of the tax, but guess which state legislatures made that dream-come-true for the owners? It is my belief that the californicators are against anybody living in the state of Washington so they're pricing people out. Therefore only the elite if any will be able to life here. Again, Californication.

It would be better to shut-down some government -"entitlements" like automatic pay raises for the legislature and governor and force the state to balance the budget rather than to expand an overlybloated system and raise taxes to support the state's addiction to money.

I support the recall gregoire movement. http://www.idiotorliar.com/

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

leftcoastjunkie — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:44:24 GMT

Sales tax taxes EVERYBODY. It's a consumption tax. Once politicians get a hold of taxing your income, they'll NEVER let it go.

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

leftcoastjunkie — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:40:49 GMT

If the Government wants less of something or in other words to 'discourage it' just tax it more. As in liquor and tobacco. The liberal mindset does not seem to get this when it comes to income. How about economizing and living within your means Washington Legislators, like your constituants have to do? People are losing their jobs, taking pay cuts, their retirement funds have taken a nose dive, and property value's are in the toilet. So Creating a State Income Tax is your ingenious answer to make it easier to get your grubby hands on my paycheck? It's not supposed to be EASY to tax people. How do these people continue to get elected for Pete's sake? Fricken Vultures is what they are.

Re: 2009 Senate Bill 5104 (Creating a State Income Tax )

Taxpayer98422 — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:23:04 GMT

As the tax laws now stands those that own property, drive cars, and own businesses pay the lions share of the bill. While those who do not own property, depend on public transportation, and don't work get the benefits but don't get the bill. I think we should all pay into the system at least a little, and state income tax does just that.