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Introduced in the House on January 23, 2012

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What part of we have no money do you people not understand. My income like that of many others is well below what I made before the economy collapsed but still you insist on granting pay increases. It is time to stop the increases to any government employee until you stop talking about increasing my fees and taxes. If the government employee is unhappy with no pay increase let them find work elsewhere. I am sure that there many out there that would love to have a job with benefits and paid days off. The Governor told us we are broke and have this huge hole in our budget but still many elected officials are increaseing our government cost in some form. We do not have a budget problem, we have a spending problem!

NO!!  No more salary increases for anyone in state government.   I don't care who you promised.

 

 The WSGC is a government fixture.  There should be no increase in government wages.  Your argument does not hold water to those that have lost their jobs, so wah, you are not getting a raise, at least you have a job.  Also, those that are on SSI, have gone two years with no increase in benefits because the feds said there was no inflation.  Again, wah, you are getting more than any SSI benefactor.

Honestly I cannot fathom why you think you are the exception to the rule.  IF you were a real LE officer or firefighter, those who put themselves in harms way I'm sure noone would have a problem with your incremental wage increase...  But someone who just makes sure that bars are in compliance to the laws of Wa.  Give us a break, a high-schooler could do that (and we could pay them minimum wage).  You make a point about going to the BLEA, well what about teachers who have their Master's which the state did not pay for, and whose wages have not gone up but their workload has? 

If you cannot afford not having a pay increase I suggest you too leave the department or simply cut back your spending (I know that is a novel concept in goverment, but set a trend). 

NO is NO.  Which it seems like dems have alot of troube with that definition.

Taking and modifying what you said 

1a2b3c:

Bottom line, ... Save yourself the embarrassment.

 

Pardon me Mr. Wayne Wannabe, I hope to God you aren't speaking for us Conservatives, Fire Fighters or Law Enforcement Officers in this State. Your banter here reveals your emotions and opinion and tends to steer away from the facts and points laid out by 1a2b3c. Although you were correct about the following points: *The WSGC is a government fixture. *NO is NO That's it. The argument doesn't need to "hold water" with those that have lost their jobs. You make it sound like it should be accepted that a group of people that do their jobs, no matter what it is, should feel lucky or fortunate. Those are the same people that feed your face while you are unemployed, sitting at home on SSI with nothing better to do, but to get on your computer and blog all freaking day. Oh wait, I'm sure you make the occasional trip to your local casino, bar, FOE, Eagles and just don't want your establishment to be "hassled" by the man. Or are you an owner of one of those establishments and have a personal vendetta against them because they caught you doing something illegal? And if the latter is the case, did you get your items seized and you are posting your messages via Monroe or Walla Walla? Sorry, I got off track there for a second (kinda like you do in your posts, eh?) The Agents might possibly think they are an exception to the rule because like 1a2b3c stated before, THEY AREN'T A PART OF THE GENERAL FUND!!! Where do you think the money comes from for the WSGC? It's not "your" tax paying pocket genius! They produce their own money with seizures and enforcement. I know, I know... You're about to say, that isn't true or some other lame, uneducated, back-peddling statement like, "They should give that money to other programs in the State budget." They can't. It's called State Law. Look it up sometime. Seized items, such as cash in this case, can only be used for the agency who brought them in. The money goes into their budget and is used to fund the agency. So, that means a butt load of money that the agents EARNED is sitting in the State's bank account earning interest. And the interest alone is probably paying for your bandwidth usage on this site. And I don't know how a coward like you sits behind your keyboard and spouts of about stuff like, "IF you were a real LE officer or firefighter, those who put themselves in harms way I'm sure no one would have a problem with your incremental wage increase." For someone that's so informed, you don't have a clue about the WSGC's operations at all. I've been on high risk warrants with them and just so you know, they had WAY more equipment than we did. I had my sidearm, they actually brought the goods. (Which they paid for out of their budget, that they earned.) Also..... If you've been living under a rock for the past 2 years, Cops are not getting wage increases and they're getting laid off. It shows your intelligence level when you say the WSGC could hire high school students for minimum wage to do the job. A couple of points here; you prove in that statement how wages don't mean anything to you and everyone should work for min wage and you even insult high school students by telling them they are only worth min wage. You Sir or Mam are a self centered jerk. Ask the rest of the thin blue line if these employees deserve a raise. I bet all of them vote yes. Why wouldn't they. If the WSGC had a guild, you Mr. DragonKnight Wayne and the State would be S.O.L. Put that in your Medicinal Marijuana pipe and smoke it. And what about teachers??? Are they involved in a HB? Are they in THIS HB? Are you suggesting you are a teacher? Try to stick to the topic of debate. If you're bringing teachers up you might as well bring up The Underwater Basket Weavers of America too. Don't get side tracked. This House Bill is about WSGC Special Agents getting incremental salary increases. That's all! You really need to do your homework and figure out how government works. Find the closest 5th grader and have them discuss basic government with you. Hopefully it will open your eyes. You are the population that paints with a broad brush. We can all see you coming a mile away. You would be a great writer for the Stranger. Ever consider it? By the way, SSI and the Feds and have nothing to do with the State budget and more over a separate fund from the general fund. In conclusion Mr. Dragon Knight John Wayne, please continue your banter with something more than feelings, emotion and opinion. Try facts. And if you don't like it.......... WAH!

Although I disagree that the state should promote and encourage gambling, I do believe that any person in a law enforcement capacity is uniquely important in their role as protector of lives and enforcer of laws. Therefore, I believe law enforcement should be one of the highest paying jobs there are. They risk their lives for others safety and well-being. Or they get involved with the most vile and inhumane criminal elements in the country. In other words, the lives of honest and hard working people would be in jeopardy without them. I say they deserve to be very well compensated for what they do.

 Stopcomplaining you protest too much...

The state law can be changed so that seizure money could go into the general fund...  And I suprised that the Dems in the house have not done that yet.

And, gambling cops DO NOT put their lives on the line like real LE or firefighters.  Wanna argue the fact?  How many gambling cops have been shot, wounded or killed in the line of action?  Oh, and I haven't seen one yet that wears a target (also called a uniform) to work... (Oh and I use the term LE, short for Law Enforcement Officers, out of respect for them, because they deserve it.  You proved my point about them going in harms way when you stated that you had to call them for high-risk warrants...    Like it or don't, what a majority of gambling cops do can be covered by those earning minimum wage. 

And, what do you have against the UBWA (Underwater Basket Weavers of America)...  Their members are producing a viable product that can be sold... 

As for me being a jerk, you calling names doesn't and using buzz words and phrases  on a post that is about ten times my orignial indicates that you are angry and you should be with the government we now have.  Instead of being angry at me for not wanting to pay higher taxes and more fees, try pointing your misplaced anger where it belongs, at the state legislature... 

Protest? What are you talking about? Just lay off your medical marijuana for a few minutes and allow at least a few hundred remaining brain cells you have left attempt to be reasonable. Ok, I get it... You are very offended like the rest of the passive aggressive Washingtonians. I'll try a different approach with you and see if it works. My bet is it won't, but I'll try my best. So according to M_DragonNuts, if you don't get shot at, wounded, killed or wear a uniform, you aren't considered "LE". By the way I use the term "LE" because that is a term you are comfortable with. I prefer to call ourselves Cops. And yes, that also includes WSGC and any other agency and their Officers you continue to discredit because they didn't get shot at, hurt or killed. Hey, sorry to all my brothers and sisters and family in WSGC, Fife PD, Bellevue, Kirkland, Sea-Tac, Redmond, and many other that weren't named. I guess that includes other states too. Hey Mmmm_DraginNutz, I guess according to your way of thinking, the Washington State Liquor Control Board agent that died in 1999, would actually make them a LE Agency, right? Oh wait! Investigator Journey wasn't wearing a uniform and only got shot 5 times, but who's counting? I stand corrected. Thank you for clarifying what LE is and what LE isn't. You should be the one to tell all the other agencies that haven't lost any Officer, Agent or Investigator, they aren't LE because they don't put their lives on the line and haven't had an in the line of duty death. Can you also tell that to the plainclothes Officers and Detectives that don't wear uniforms? How did I prove your point, if we were asked to assist them in a high-risk warrant? This is what I'm talking about.... You are talking out of your A$$. You have no idea what goes into a high-risk warrant and take down. I work for a local agency and we ask for other agencies assistance when needed. You see Mr. Whoeveryouare, LEAs like to be as safe as possible so we can go home to our families. If that takes calling in another agency like the WSGC, so we have a few more AR15s hanging out, so be it. I have no idea why I'm explaining myself to a media educated DB like you. I'm willing to bet you are a 2%er. If you know any Cops, ask them what a 2%er is. Or Google it, since that is obviously how you choose to educate yourself. As for the minimum wage thing. You are obviously a minimum wage earning Underwater Basket Weaver, so I apologize for that reference. That is why you must think it's acceptable to get minimum wage. By the way, I hope you work out a better contract and get what you deserve the next time you negotiate your contract. And to confirm what you said, I AM angry and I AM with local govt. I'm especially upset with the misinformed sheeple like you. It's scary. It's scary to think if there are enough people like you, there could possibly be change for the worse. And to make it perfectly clear, I hate the way the State is run. Gregoire and her crew of spending maniacs have killed this state with frivolous spending. How about instead of you trying to make your point with me or people on this message board, you talk to your Representatives and Legislators and propose a Bill to change things you don't like. You see, I'm a proponent of HB 2670 therefore I support the Bill. It shouldn't even be a Bill. The State Govt owes the money to the Agents of the WSGC as well as everyone else. I guarantee, if we had Rossi in office, this wouldn't even be an issue and the agents would be getting paid what they deserve. And that weird tag that you keep putting up in your messages about the Governor is broken. Kind of like your way of thinking. Sorry, but you keep proving how non-global your thinking process is. This might sound like a personal attack if you are the standard, sensitive Washingtonian. I guess we'll see. Anything else I missed?

stopcomplaining:

the Washington State Liquor Control Board agent that died in 1999,

   Sorry I was out of country for that one.  I am truely sorry to hear that a liquor control board cop was shot in the line of duty...   My condolences goes out to inspector Journey's family...  However I was under the impression that we are talking about the gambling commission cops...  One which you are, however I feel about state regulatory agencies does not in any way diminish the death of officer Journey and his family.  Again I am truely sorry for this I hope they found the guy who shot him and put him to death (oh wait, the dems believe in letting the guilty live while aborting innocent life.... sorry).

stopcomplaining:

As for the minimum wage thing. You are obviously a minimum wage earning Underwater Basket Weaver, so I apologize for that reference

  I'm not, but you apology is graciously accepted.

Second, I think your frustrated and the only reason this has become a personal attack on your part in your misuse of my monicker,   Too bad.

stopcomplaining:

I'm willing to bet you are a 2%er.

And what are you willing to wager?  If you feel as strongly as you appear, then I suggest nothing less than your job.  Remember, it is foolish to bet on something you might lose at...  

However to get back to the point, in my opinion, as a state employee, you and other state employees do not deserve a raise until the budget is fixed.

Again I suggest if you are this angry at an opposing opinion, then you should be writing the legislature, campaigning for someone who you agree with, do whatever it takes to make the government change rather then calling me names...  Or, you can move to Idaho...  or anyother state to your liking...  Without your job (your bet remember), you are free to do as you please.  Maybe you can be retrained and become something you enjoy, it'll make life so much more pleasant for you.

There you are! I knew you couldn't put it down. I have noticed a couple of times now in your rants, you think I'm with the WSGC or a State agency. I still don't know where you are getting this from. I'm in a LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY! Hello??? Is this thing on? I'm relieved to see you have enough wherewithal and not too much pride to see when you are wrong. I'm sure Journey's Family and co-workers appreciate your heartfelt condolences. I think you forget, we were talking about the GC Cops, but then you pretty much offended me and everyone else in LE that didn't fall into YOUR definition of what LE is. Listen I can't make you believe that the State isn't paying equal work for equal pay with the WSGC. I can't make you believe they are Officers. Personally, as you can tell, don't give a rip what you think about them or the situation. But I'll be damned if I'm just going to stand by and read this fictional garbage you put on this HB message board. I'll inform the people that care what is really happening with this Bill. It's kind of funny how you talk about wagering while we are talking about gambling. Have a gambling problem you'd like to discuss? The WSGC can offer you some resources to help you with that. As for my 2% question, I'll let your bet slide and you can tell us all about the 2%er rule now. I think you've had plenty of time to figure it out. Also, can you still answer my question about the WSGC's budget, that isn't a part of the general budget? Their entire budget adds up to approximately .0023% of the general state budget. Would that amount be a significant enough of an amount to make any sort of difference in your life? Let me tell you what will happen with the WSGC's budget if this doesn't pass. Good ole Chrissy will find a "Social Program" to give it to, or worse yet, spend it on trips out of state or the country. I just don't get why you are so bitter about this Bill. They earn their money, they do their jobs and whatever they seize goes to their budget. They are self generating. They do good work and their reward is seizing the money BAD GUY gets and they put it back into their Law Enforcement Agency. If you are against that, you are against every LE Agency in this State and Country, because that is what we do. That money is set aside for wages, equipment and training. The atta-boy and/or atta-girl is the payoff and watching BAD GUY go to prison. What is different with this scenario???? This wouldn't even be a HB and you and I wouldn't even be discussing this if they had a Guild. The agreement the State gave the Agents would've been as good as gold if it was put in a contract. But since the employees of the WSGC trusted the State's word to give them the raises they deserve and earned themselves, they got burnt. The State has placed mistrust and a bad moral within it's own agency. Go talk to people and see for yourself. I don't even work for the God Forsaken State and I feel for everyone of them. It's a crappy thing the State is doing and isn't necessary. If it keeps going at this rate, it will be what you want. Everyone jumping ship for a job they can make double doing at a local Police Dept. All of them have the training, or more training than even I do for crying out loud! So they continue to drop like flies and like you have suggested, the State pays less and less. Great plan! I suggest you look at the requirements to become a WSCG Agent my friend. Look up the job description, then tell me how many people would do it for much more than they are getting paid right now. I seriously doubt a teacher would. The only reason why I say that is because they make as much as teachers make, but they carry guns, arrest people and attend the same training I do. They even qualify more than I do and have a way more stringent qual. So to get back to your little bet my good man or lady... I don't think you have any idea who you are talking too or what you are talking about. If you are a Cop, which I doubt, you make me ill knowing you are supposed to be supportive of other LE Agencies but refuse to back this HB. That is why I seriously think you are a Lemming and a troll who's only reason for existence is to start a revolution or be a martyr. And just for clarity, you would need to write the legislature to sway them your way. The Agents aren't getting paid as is, but the HB is on the table. So you might want to use your typing time to persuade the State to keep robbing fellow LEAs. In conclusion, it's been great banter, but we really aren't getting any points across to each other, so I'll agree to greatly disagree. I will remain on this thread however to clarify any more inaccuracies relating to this matter. One more thing..... God I wish I had the ability to move to a Red State, but I'm still trying to raise kids, send them to college, pay off a house, and work toward my crappy 60% retirement. You see, I don't have the luxury of quitting in order to get "retrained". I enjoy what I do and get paid fairly to do it, I'm lucky. Some LEAs aren't as fortunate.

There you are! I knew you couldn't put it down. I have noticed a couple of times now in your rants, you think I'm with the WSGC or a State agency. I still don't know where you are getting this from. I'm in a LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY! Hello??? Is this thing on? I'm relieved to see you have enough wherewithal and not too much pride to see when you are wrong. I'm sure Journey's Family and co-workers appreciate your heartfelt condolences. I think you forget, we were talking about the GC Cops, but then you pretty much offended me and everyone else in LE that didn't fall into YOUR definition of what LE is. Listen I can't make you believe that the State isn't paying equal work for equal pay with the WSGC. I can't make you believe they are Officers. Personally, as you can tell, don't give a rip what you think about them or the situation. But I'll be damned if I'm just going to stand by and read this fictional garbage you put on this HB message board. I'll inform the people that care what is really happening with this Bill. It's kind of funny how you talk about wagering while we are talking about gambling. Have a gambling problem you'd like to discuss? The WSGC can offer you some resources to help you with that. As for my 2% question, I'll let your bet slide and you can tell us all about the 2%er rule now. I think you've had plenty of time to figure it out. Also, can you still answer my question about the WSGC's budget, that isn't a part of the general budget? Their entire budget adds up to approximately .0023% of the general state budget. Would that amount be a significant enough of an amount to make any sort of difference in your life? Let me tell you what will happen with the WSGC's budget if this doesn't pass. Good ole Chrissy will find a "Social Program" to give it to, or worse yet, spend it on trips out of state or the country. I just don't get why you are so bitter about this Bill. They earn their money, they do their jobs and whatever they seize goes to their budget. They are self generating. They do good work and their reward is seizing the money BAD GUY gets and they put it back into their Law Enforcement Agency. If you are against that, you are against every LE Agency in this State and Country, because that is what we do. That money is set aside for wages, equipment and training. The atta-boy and/or atta-girl is the payoff and watching BAD GUY go to prison. What is different with this scenario???? This wouldn't even be a HB and you and I wouldn't even be discussing this if they had a Guild. The agreement the State gave the Agents would've been as good as gold if it was put in a contract. But since the employees of the WSGC trusted the State's word to give them the raises they deserve and earned themselves, they got burnt. The State has placed mistrust and a bad moral within it's own agency. Go talk to people and see for yourself. I don't even work for the God Forsaken State and I feel for everyone of them. It's a crappy thing the State is doing and isn't necessary. If it keeps going at this rate, it will be what you want. Everyone jumping ship for a job they can make double doing at a local Police Dept. All of them have the training, or more training than even I do for crying out loud! So they continue to drop like flies and like you have suggested, the State pays less and less. Great plan! I suggest you look at the requirements to become a WSCG Agent my friend. Look up the job description, then tell me how many people would do it for much more than they are getting paid right now. I seriously doubt a teacher would. The only reason why I say that is because they make as much as teachers make, but they carry guns, arrest people and attend the same training I do. They even qualify more than I do and have a way more stringent qual. So to get back to your little bet my good man or lady... I don't think you have any idea who you are talking too or what you are talking about. If you are a Cop, which I doubt, you make me ill knowing you are supposed to be supportive of other LE Agencies but refuse to back this HB. That is why I seriously think you are a Lemming and a troll who's only reason for existence is to start a revolution or be a martyr. And just for clarity, you would need to write the legislature to sway them your way. The Agents aren't getting paid as is, but the HB is on the table. So you might want to use your typing time to persuade the State to keep robbing fellow LEAs. In conclusion, it's been great banter, but we really aren't getting any points across to each other, so I'll agree to greatly disagree. I will remain on this thread however to clarify any more inaccuracies relating to this matter. One more thing..... God I wish I had the ability to move to a Red State, but I'm still trying to raise kids, send them to college, pay off a house, and work toward my crappy 60% retirement. You see, I don't have the luxury of quitting in order to get "retrained". I enjoy what I do and get paid fairly to do it, I'm lucky. Some LEAs aren't as fortunate.

stopcomplaining:

There you are! I knew you couldn't put it down.

 

You are the one that is casting dispersions on my character and I do have the right to answer those charges...  You have accused me of having a gamblng problem, being a pot head and a the like....  Since I'm none of these, what next?

stopcomplaining:

It's kind of funny how you talk about wagering while we are talking about gambling.

You are the one that brought up the bet, I just took you up on it.  By the way, your still out of a job as per our bet, oh wait you welched on it...  figures.

As for a local LE, with the way you rant, I'm guessing you are somewhat a low-level LE member, perhaps a 911 caller or a jailer (which explains why I thought you were a games commission cop).  I would say more but anyone in LE deserves some respect.  Just not those belonging to any state regulatory agency (except the WSP)...

 

 

You need to get a grip!  No one wil read your tirades because they are too long and too manic.

Mr.,Ms, or Mrs M_DragonKnight, 

I find it disturbing how you constantly keep insulting LE at any level.  I'm not sure if you just read what you want, or if you are between tokes on your "medicine".  If I'm talking about working with other agencies  in the previous messages and serving high-risk warrants with them, I don't think a "911 caller" (WTH is a 911 caller?  Do you mean a victim?) or a jailer usually serve warrants.  I guess that's what you get for thinking. I belong to a municipal agency for the record.  Just to make that very clear...  I am a patrol cop.  You refer to us as "low-lowel" LE. I'm glad you didn't say anymore, because you've disrespected enough LE that have been following your senseless rant.  Besides the fact, you just don't sound educated in the ways LE works.  And that is OK!  You aren't expected to know everything involving LE.  But for the love of God man, please do some homework (as another person put it) before you start running your mouth.  Just for the record, can you tell me in your infinate wisdom, just what are the responsibilities of the WSGC?  You have repeatedly spouted off statements that are inaccurate and aren't true.  So what do you KNOW about the WSGC?  Answer the questions this time please.  I constantly have to explain the facts to you, so now it's your turn to school me.  I hope to get some sort of answer that doesn't point to your real identity and/or lack of intellect.  Please prove me wrong.  So tell all of us!  What are the responsibilities of the WSGC?   Let's pretend you haven't insulted anyone yet. 

 

stopcomplaining:

if you are between tokes on your "medicine".

Again you call me a druggie/pot head.  Shame on you.

stopcomplaining:

WTH is a 911 caller?  Do you mean a victim?)

you got me on a typo... It should have read, 911 service person...  Operator to you... 

stopcomplaining:

I don't think a "911 caller" (WTH is a 911 caller? Do you mean a victim?) or a jailer usually serve warrants.

stopcomplaining:

I'm not sure if you just read what you want, or if you are between tokes on your "medicine".

  The 911 service person does not but the jailer does on almost a daily basis (depending on the size and type of jail, municipality and county).  And there are a few counties that use reserved officers to deliver bench warrants and summonses.

stopcomplaining:

Just to make that very clear...  I am a patrol cop. 

  Please tell us where, because sir, your buttons are too easily pushed and if you behave the way on the street as you do here then I don't want to run into you and you should be taken off the beat and given a vacation, because you are too high-strung...  LE is a high-stress job and not everyone is wired for it, I know you're going to tell me you are x number of year veteran and blah blah blah...  I am telling you that next to psychiatry, LE has the highest alchol abuse/ drug abuse suicide rate in the country...  Being a patrol officer is not an easy job, and you sir seem to be suffering from high-stress...

stopcomplaining:

You have repeatedly spouted off statements that are inaccurate and aren't true. So what do you KNOW about the WSGC?

The only thing I have really spouted-off about the WSGC about is that most of their work can be done by high-school kids at minimum wage, and that they as well as other state workers (except LE and firefighters) do not deserve a raise in pay until the budget is taken care of....  I should also say without additional taxes but my postings in other parts of this forum would indicate that.

stopcomplaining:

I find it disturbing how you constantly keep insulting LE at any level.

  How insulting is Law Enforcement official as compared to cop?  Cop has always been slang for the LE...  Also, I am in favor of giving LE raises, as they do put themselves in harms way everytime they go to work....  As you should know being a patrol officer.  FYI, I am not the person who ever says that the police are wrong when video is posted...  I am the one that says, there is more to this then is being shown...  Let's see the rest....  No respect for LE?  Sir, I have had more friends killed and injured as LE than you can probably call friends.  I was first on the scene when my colleague and friend was cut in two with a shotgun outside of Moab in 78 during a "routine" traffic stop.    But to be fair, I think very little of state enforcement officers other than WSP and game wardens (who should also get a raise), and I think less of politicians....  And yes, 911 service personal and corrections are considered low-level...  That is their training does not have to be as intensive as those that are on the street, making life and death decisions daily. 

stopcomplaining:

Let's pretend you haven't insulted anyone yet. 

 I haven't even began to insult and if I do, you will know that I have insulted.  You see, unlike you, I do not stoop to deranging personal monickers, I do not use typos against the person, I don't make false accusations and I don't call people things they are not.  I prefer more cerebral methods,,,  Perhaps you wouldn't know when I insulted you (not an insult just an infrence).

Again, find another line of work by your rants you're close to being burned-out.  You don't need this kind of stress, stress causes misjudgments and in your case a misjudgement can get you killed.  At least take a stress-related disability for a couple of months. 

Again, my opinion is that WSGC enforcement officers should not have a raise while the budget is broke, and the property that has been confiscated should be sold at auction and the money go into the general fund, or the education system...

 Nice.  Great answer!  I can see this is a complete waste of time. 

 Brass tax.  Let discuss the points of this Bill.  You still continue to rant about previous messages, when I've invited you to tell me about all about this Bill and the WSGC.   Your blah, blah, blah hearsay stories and accusations aren't explaining your reasoning for not being in favor of the Bill.  You can't sell me on the fact that you are pro LE.  So who cares?  I'm bored with your repetitive arguement.  Try talking about the Bill and what the WSGC's responsibilities are.  Stick to the topic please.

FYI - these are the duties and job description.  Thought I would educate and respond to the comment about a "high schooler".  Seems it's quite a bit more than that.

WASHINGTON STATE GAMBLING COMMISSION

EXEMPT JOB DESCRIPTION

GAMBLING SPECIAL AGENT 1

B7700

Job Scope

This position is designated as an entry-level position with an in-training period of up to 18 months.

Completion of the Basic Law Enforcement Academy and in-house firearms/defensive tactics are

required within this time frame. Agents generally work with a lead worker or supervisor while

performing the duties of a Gambling Special Agent 1, although they will perform some duties

independently.

Duties include beginning level regulatory assignments involving onsite monitoring, operational

inspections, equipment inspections, records and financial inspections/investigations, high level audits,

intelligence gathering, and covert investigative duties in the assigned region or unit.

NOTE: Pursuant to RCW 9.46.080, this position shall be exempt from the provisions of Chapter

41.06.RCW.

Job Duties and Expectations

Become familiar with WAC 230-30 and/or Tribal-State Compacts, pertaining to rules and regulations of

gambling activities overseen by your assigned division. Gain an understanding of agency policies and

procedures. Assimilate available materials to gain the knowledge and skills needed to advance to a

Special Agent.

Trainees learn to perform standardized tasks and receive progressive assignments in one of the

following Divisions:

FIELD OPERATIONS DIVISION

Field Operations – Field agents are assigned to one of our three regions:

· Northwest,

· Southwest

· Eastern.

The main regional offices are in:

· Everett

· Spokane

· Tacoma.

In addition, agents are stationed in several satellite and home offices. They conduct regulatory

compliance inspections, criminal investigations, and may work undercover. Some agents in this division

collect and analyze criminal intelligence information.

Field Operations Job Duties

April 2011

· Conduct administrative investigations of licensed operators and individual license holders.

· Are knowledgeable and able to interpret and apply the rules and regulations for the six primary

licensed gambling activities for non-profit and commercial businesses, as well as regulations for

individual gambling license holders and various unlicensed gambling activities.

· Conduct on-site visits to licensed gambling facilities at varied hours. Enforce the laws and

regulations in a fair, objective, and reasonable manner.

· Review and evaluate required record keeping and internal control systems for licensed

activities. Take appropriate action based on findings.

· Investigate complaints and criminal activity involving or related to gambling.

· Conduct routine and specialized inspections and reviews.

· Prepare and instruct formal and informal training programs to licenses to strive for voluntary

compliance.

· Conduct investigations into various criminal activities.

· Prepare search warrants, make arrests, and testify in criminal proceedings.

· Perform inspections of the operations of gambling activities to determine compliance with

applicable RCW and WAC rules.

· Review internal control systems established by licensees to determine compliance with

operating policies and procedures.

· Review and evaluate record keeping systems to determine compliance with RCW and WAC

rules, demonstrated by completion of records and/or financial inspections.

Criminal Intelligence Unit Job Duties

· Collect, evaluate, collate, and analyze criminal intelligence information and present findings and

conclusion to appropriate management staff along with recommendations.

· Possess the ability to establish information-sharing relationships with other law enforcement

agencies and personnel.

LICENSING OPERATIONS DIVISION

Financial Investigation Unit (FIU) Job Duties

FIU Special Agents are responsible for conducting pre and post licensing investigations for individuals

and commercial applicants/licensees to determine qualification for licensure. FIU Special Agents:

· Analyze the ownership and financial structure of businesses to determine that all owners,

officers and substantial interest holders have been properly identified and are qualified for

licensure as set forth in RCW and WAC.

· Trace all funds used to start the business or to begin operations in Washington, ensuring those

funds come from qualified sources.

· Analyze complex, multi-level corporations to ensure the correct business is licensed.

· Analyze commercial and nonprofit financial statements to ensure the licensee is in compliance

with WAC.

Criminal History Investigations Unit (CHI) Job Duties

CHI Special Agents are responsible for conducting pre and post licensing investigations for individuals

to determine qualification for licensure. CHI Special Agents:

· Analyze the criminal backgrounds of all individual license holders, owners, officers and

substantial interest holders to determine qualification for licensure.

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· Conduct additional research, including interviewing license applicants, reviewing court

documents and obtaining information from outside law enforcement personnel/agencies.

· Assist our Tribal regulatory partners in investigations regarding Class III license holders.

NOTE: Special Agents in the Financial Investigations Unit and Criminal History Investigations Unit are

Financial Investigators, and are not required to carry a weapon, participate in the agency firearms

training, or attend the Basic Law Enforcement Academy.

TRIBAL AND TECHNICAL GAMBLING DIVISION

Tribal Gaming Unit Job Duties

· Work cooperatively and as partners with Tribal Gaming Agencies in the oversight and

enforcement of Tribal-State compact requirements

· Develop and maintain rapport with tribal governments and their representatives.

· Obtain knowledge and understanding of federal gaming regulations with a focus on Class III

activities as it relates to Tribal-State compacts.

· Conduct on-site visits to tribal casinos to perform routine and specialized inspections and

reviews

· Review tribal submissions to include internal controls, game rules, etc.

· Investigate complaints.

· Complete detailed time records and other monthly reports and meet unit billable hours

requirement.

OTHER GAMBLING SPECIAL AGENT DUTIES

Participate as a team member and assist in

· Conduct distributor and manufacturer audits.

· Conduct Program Reviews.

· Conduct structured informational programs and mandatory training to civic groups, local law

enforcement, and new licensees.

· Provide security at Commission meetings.

NOTE: Pursuant to RCW 9.46.210, this position, under the supervision of the Commission, shall have

the following powers:

1. To enforce the penal provisions of Chapter 218, Laws of 1973 lst ex.sess. and as amended;

2. To apply for and execute all warrants and serve process of law issued by the courts in enforcing

the penal provisions of this state relating to the conduct of, or participation in, gambling

activities;

3. To arrest without a warrant; and

4. To perform undercover investigations.

Required Qualifications

· A Bachelor’s degree involving major study in criminal justice, accounting or finance, public or

business administration, or closely related field, OR

· Four or more years of related experience in business, auditing, accounting, law enforcement,

regulatory, fraud, or investigations. OR

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· Associates degree involving study in criminal justice, accounting or finance, public or business

administration, or closely related field, AND a minimum of two years related experience in business,

auditing, accounting, law enforcement, regulatory, fraud or investigations.

· The core competencies for all Gambling Commission employees are Communication, Relationship

Building and Influence, Customer Focus, Ethics and Integrity, Diversity, Accountability, and

Initiative.

· Gambling Special Agents must also have the following competencies: Analysis and Judgment,

Adaptability and Flexibility, and Tact and Diplomacy.

Desirable Qualifications

· Experience in conducting regulatory investigations with other local, state, and federal agencies, and

tribal governments.

· Successful completion of Basic Law Enforcement Academy

· Licensed Certified Public Accountant (CPA)

· Experience reviewing financial statements from nonprofit and commercial entities.

· Experience in obtaining, reviewing and understanding court documents from all court levels to

include federal, superior, and district courts.

 

 

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