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  • Mon, Jan 1 2001 12:00 AM

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    2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

    Introduced in the House on January 25, 2011

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  • Sun, Jan 30 2011 7:25 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

     Obviously, some of the folks in Olympia have been smokin' the stuff for quite some time!

  • Tue, Feb 1 2011 5:06 PM In reply to

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     Sooner or later the money-grabbers would need to argue that legalizing marijuana would be the only way to end the social and economic problems caused by it being illegal.

    And that is all it really is - a way for the state to get its hands on more money.

    It is also one of the left's principles - legalize everything considered a sin or vice.

  • Tue, Feb 8 2011 2:13 AM In reply to

    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

    The war on drugs has been an utter failure, children have better access to marijuana than they do to alcohol. The annual production value of marijuana in Washington state is estimated at over 1 billion dollars annually that's twice as high as wheat and nearly equivalent to apples (our leading cash crop), all of these profits go to drug dealers and smugglers who do not pay any taxes on this income. Arrests for the possession of Marijuana is not only a waist of valuable police time and resources but also can affect the "criminals/victims" ability to get a decent job for the rest of there life. There are tens of thousands of people who use marijuana responsibly in the privacy of there own homes and because of this cant get a decent job or could loose there current job by failing a random drug test. Marijuana has been proven to be less harmful than Alcohol, tobacco, or many over the counter medications yet it is still illegal (where is our common sense).  I believe that HB 1550 could be an excellent opportunity for Washington state to gain revenue, boost our economy and to protect our children.  Lastly if you look at the history of marijuana prohibition you will find its downright shameful.


    With enough support this bill could pass, Tell your friends to write to their district representatives and voice their opinions.  Washington can lead the way in ending this costly, unfair  and unjust war on marijuana.

  • Mon, Feb 14 2011 1:15 PM In reply to

    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

    Lainie59:
    It is also one of the left's principles - legalize everything considered a sin or vice.

    Not a LEFT/RIGHT issue.  One of the Rights principles is to Get government out of our lives.  I am a conservative that is pro-pot for resposible adults.  If you want to live in a no pot area it should be a local choice not a beurocratic mandate from the Fed.  Pot being one of the largest cash crops in the country should be subjected to state/local taxation.

  • Fri, Feb 18 2011 2:31 AM In reply to

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    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

    Washington State Voters would appreciated very much if this law passed in Olympia ASAP.  For many reasons one being budget relief, and second, stop wasting money on drug war instead make revenue for our state...Marijuana is much more safer than Alcohol and cigarettes...and there are many medicinal values ljust ike many herbal products (i.e. milk thistle, green tea extract, saw palmetto and on and on...and you cannot get addicted to herbs! and most medicines comes from herbs and plants.

    thank you our legislators

    bg jun and WA State Voters - http://bgwanjun.blogspot.com my blog is linked to twitter, facebook and wordpress and millions of us are watching how you vote on this...it's no-longer selective few that knows about these issues anymore we are paying attention and there are millions of us.

  • Thu, Feb 24 2011 1:32 AM In reply to

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    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

    when you illegallize something you are giving up control...but when you legallize it you are taking control... 

  • Tue, Mar 15 2011 12:44 AM In reply to

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    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

     I am an adult, registered voter in Washington State. I do not use marijuana but beleive that it should be legal for all adults over the age of 21 years old that want to use it. This bill makes sense, unlike Senate bill 5073, which addresses medical use only.

    HB 1550 will take the glamour and rebellion out of the use of marijuana. I urge our policy makers to pass this bill.

  • Thu, Mar 17 2011 12:26 AM In reply to

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     And I urge them not to pass the bill.

    It is a bad bill, but one which Obama will mandate later on this year. 

     

    Follow the money which is trying to get this bill passed.

    DK

     

    I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.
    - John Wayne in the Shootist.

  • Sun, Mar 20 2011 10:53 PM In reply to

    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

    I support this bill and will also being signing I-1149 with pleasure.

  • Sat, Mar 26 2011 11:15 PM In reply to

    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

    I am a person whom does not use Marijuana for personal pleasure but has no problem against it.  There are many benefits, other than personal pleasure and medical, like; 

    >The plant can grow almost any where and doesn't need much energy (water, fertilizer, etc.)

    >The hemp from the plant can be used in many different ways, like for; cloths, paper, hemp oil, and much more

    >reduce the cutting of limber for products

    >Marijuana obtains more carbon dioxide than most plants i.e. better cleaner air

    >If legal citizens of Washington State wouldn't have to be illegal, there would be less gang/drug related crimes, wouldn't have to spend $40,000 a year on some one who was caught 3 times with marijuana, and the Gov. could spend money on drugs that are harmful like meth, cocaine, acid, etc

    >The definition of crazy is someone whom does the same thing over and over expecting different results, aka the marijuana prohibition

    I am for Bill 1550 it would be beneficial  for medical purposes, cheaper and stronger products, create more revenue for the state, to relax at the end of the day and much more, the question is, why not?

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  • Mon, Mar 28 2011 9:11 AM In reply to

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    FictionJake:

    I am a person whom does not use Marijuana for personal pleasure but has no problem against it. There are many benefits, other than personal pleasure and medical, like;

    And why did you forget the drugs that contain TCP that are already available as a prescription? So I don't believe you.

    >The plant can grow almost any where and doesn't need much energy (water, fertilizer, etc.)

    Why is this a benefit? When you started out, you claimed beneficial to mankind, so far you're describing a dandelion or scotch broom.

    >The hemp from the plant can be used in many different ways, like for; cloths, paper, hemp oil, and much more

    True and if so should be grown in a commercial way not as personal plants. In fact, there is a marijuana plant that has no TCP that can and will provide just such uses, only it's not illegal.

    >reduce the cutting of limber for products

    Why? Can you build houses with it too? Swing sets? Fences? Stupid argument and you lose again on this one.

    >Marijuana obtains more carbon dioxide than most plants i.e. better cleaner air

    But not all plants. And not as much as trees, blackberries, etc. And since you're so interested in carbon-capture, I am surprised that you are advocating the use of marijuana at all, it seems that if it is as you claim, you'd want the pot-plant to grow and not be harvested, thereby capturing more carbon. But again, let us suppose that this is a valid argument. Why then not plant them on a commercial farm and make that legal while keeping individual plants illegal?

    >If legal citizens of Washington State wouldn't have to be illegal, there would be less gang/drug related crimes, wouldn't have to spend $40,000 a year on someone who was caught 3 times with marijuana, and the Gov. could spend money on drugs that are harmful like meth, cocaine, acid, etc

    This is entirely a stupid statement, and presupposes that people have no free will and therefore responsibility for one's actions is moot. This is like saying that legal citizens of the state wouldn't be illegal if pedophilia were legal, and would cut-down on child ***.

    As for gang-related crimes, gangs don't really have that much invested in pot, heroin, meth, crank and the like is their drug-related crimes of choice. As for pot, it is so cheap, and makes one so mellow; a user has no energy to commit a crime. So, quit making hysterical comments as a rational for legalizing marijuana.

    I guess the fact that the residue from marijuana coats the neurons so that it inhibits stimuli is a good argument, but you haven't made that and as I stated earlier, there are prescribed medications that contain tcp which does the same thing.

    >The definition of crazy is someone whom does the same thing over and over expecting different results, aka the marijuana prohibition

    Actually, that would be alcohol prohibition.

    One wonders why some of these people quote High Times without knowing the facts of marijuana. The only real reason to legalize pot the way you describe it is just to smoke it.  Which again is stupid.  Or crazy as you describe, such as smoking which will lead to lung cancer and why expect a different outcome?  But the real reason to legalize marijuana is to drug the citizenry into such a stupor that the dems will find it easier to make Washington into the perfect socialist state.

    DK

     

    I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.
    - John Wayne in the Shootist.

  • Wed, Mar 30 2011 2:04 AM In reply to

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     **THE TYPICALL PERSON WILL IGNORE THIS POST**

    Now, lets be realistic for a moment. Why would we continue to keep marijuana illegal, unless the government truely supported the drug cartels? Think about it, all we are doing is giving drug cartels, gang members, criminals e.t.c, the benifit of makin anywhere from thousands of dollars to billions of dollars if not prosecuted. If they do get prosecuted, we still lose, because natives to this state have to pay tax dollars being used to hold criminals in prison/jail, that aren't even truely criminals. Holding an individual in prison/jail for violent/sexual/harmful crimes e.t.c is a legitimate reason for prosecution. We could be regulating this product of nature to our benefit, rather than holdin it against ourselves as a punishment, which in my eyes, is beyond ignorant. Marijuana has been proven to slow the growth of tumors, increase appetite, help insomniacs, and by pass pain. If it was such a burden, why would we have medical marijuana? It makes not even the slightest bit of sense to keep marijuana illegal. We are wasting tax payers money on drug wars for marijuana (approximately 40 billion dollars YEARLY). What are we doing besides digging our own grave? we are wasting all this tax payers money on the drug war, specifically, marijuana. Marijuana has no lethal side effects, period. Where as, to alcohol/tobacco, that kills hundreds if not thousands citizens a year. Are we trying to kill ourselves, and regress to the caveman ages? This kind of nonsense is inexcusable. We need to realize that times are changing, and we CANNOT stop time. Regardless of what the next person says, marijuana is not only safer than alcohol/tobacco, it is a huge financial gain if approached appropriately. I conclude my reasoning with this, if we dont make changes, changes will force themself upon us in negative ways, with negative outcomes. (just look at gang members, their some of the ritchest people on this continent). Are we going to leave ignorance responsible for the regression of our lively hood?  Dear god i hope not.

    -Trevor Duncan

    trelokust@yahoo.com

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  • Wed, Mar 30 2011 3:11 AM In reply to

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    M_DarkKnight

              I am amused my brief statement sparked much thought. My statement was not about synthetically engineered alternatives to the marijuana plant, nor to your hysterical comparison of marijuana to pedophilia or to your belief that you will become socialist if smoke marijuana. Smoking marijuana is NOT the same as smoking a cigarette. The plant can be structurally capable of building a house, swing set or fences from the plants fibers. While my statement or claim as you put it did not say anything about mankind maybe it should have.  

              Marijuana or cannabis is naturally grown plant. A plant that can grows in places most agriculture we thrive on doesn't. An almost 4billion trees are cut down each year for the use of paper products which is about 35% of the deforesting a year.(ecology.com/features/paperchase)  Everything in this plant can be used the buds, the fiber and the seeds. The Fibers are longer lasting then those of wood or cotton. Most all products made of wood and cotton today where made of the hemp fibers about one hundred years ago. Henry Ford even made a car of hemp fiber.(http://www.hempcar.org/hempfacts.shtml). Washington State university conducted a study from 91 to 93 about the stronger comparison of hemp vs wood materials needed for construction.

             The hemp oil created from the seeds of the plant is  used in lotions, body oils, cooking oils, and even bio fuels for cars. So why import it? Lets be an exporter of it. No matter how many genetically altered plants it still will not be as strong and easy to grow as the organic hemp.

              Then yes there are the buds, many smoke them for pleasure and medical purposes. So what. There was a study by UCLA that revealed that smoking marijuana has not 1 same side effect as to smoking a cigarette aka cancer. (http://www.gsalternative.com/2010/05/smoking-marijuana-does-not-lead-to-lung-cancer/) There has not been one reported case of a death in all the years people have smoked marijuana due to the use of the cannabis. In fact the plant is so beneficial, pharmaceutical companies are trying to engineer an alternative because you cant patent or claim to fame on something mother nature produced. 

     

           DK, your argument has no newly publicized truth only your own speculation, assumptions and early 1900s information, that marijuana will make you a socialist, have cancer and above all the most ridiculous thing you said a pedophile (you said it! It must be on your mind). It is true why some wonder why people quote high time without knowing the facts of marijuana.

    This is about legalizing the plant, smoking it and using it. It will have much benefits but if used irresponsibly should be treated  and enforced like alcohol. Its needed to have a debate for over 75 years now. Its good to see that this topic is stirring up emotions but to find middle ground we all need to be heard, treated with respect and most of all accurate information about the topic. 

     

    I am for 1550

     

    FJ

     

     


  • Thu, Mar 31 2011 1:12 AM In reply to

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    Trevor, no one I know (including me) is against medical marijuana as long as it prescribed properly and not through the pot clinics like they have in California and Oregon.

     

    But, to use the propoganda the state used to kill the bill which would get the state out of the liquor biz:  Now if a kid of 12 or 13 wants to buy cigarettes or beer, all they need to do is go to the local corner store and find someone to buy it for them, how can pot be any different?

    Or are you in favor of 12 and 13 year olds smoking pot?  If so you don't see the damage it does to the kids like I do teaching in Jr High.

    DK

     

     

    I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.
    - John Wayne in the Shootist.

  • Fri, Apr 8 2011 12:39 AM In reply to

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    IT IS ALOT EASIER to buy illegal pot than it is alcohol. The process is simple dealers are known throughout the school and these dealers don't check ID. if marijuana is legal these dealers (some with criminal backgrounds) will lose money and yes you might still be able to try and get someone to buy it for you and you might even succeed. But I can honestly tell you most won't even go through the trouble of getting alcohol NOW cuz its alot more complicated and risky (someone might run off with your money or alcohol). They'd probly either go to their friend they see in english class EVERY DAY(whos dad probably deals as well) and get a dime for 10$. The prohibition actually makes it alot EASIER for us to get it because its being floated around with all the harder drugs or painkillers that high schoolers are getting into lately. You want to keep marijuana out of a 12 or 13 year old's hand? Make it legal.

     

  • Fri, Apr 8 2011 12:56 AM In reply to

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     lemme just say prostitution should probly be legalized to to end demand for a dangerous black market. totally unrelated but yah EVERYTHING a sin or vice

  • Fri, Apr 8 2011 11:46 AM In reply to

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     Just like cigarettes, viagra, oxycotton, alcohol?

    Oh wait, you mentioned that alcohol is too hard for the kids to get now so they don't even bother, I guess thats why we had only five kids kicked out of school last week for drinking rather than twice or three times that.

    Cmon, your argument doesn't make sense.  And, I challenge you to prove what your saying Dev.

     

    DK

     

    I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.
    - John Wayne in the Shootist.

  • Fri, Apr 8 2011 11:58 AM In reply to

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     Okay, I can go with that.

    But, imagine what a fuss the anti-gun crowd would have if we were talking about making automatic (machine guns) weapons legal?  This message board would be flooded with postings like "how wrong it is to hunt bambi with machine guns" or "some machineg gun will go rogue and kill people."

    Or, how about taking the state out of the alchol and tobacco business and only sell it in pharmacies?

    Or, as you said, making prostitution legal because after all, it's happening anyway and we can always use the tax money...

    I would like that anyone caught driving under the influence have a manditory execution since they don't care about the safety of others.

    Of course, all those with drug addictions should be issued a one-shot pistol instead of a clean hypo and needle.  Since they are trying to kill themselves and they are selfish enough not to care what they are doing to their friends and families (not the least of which includes stealing), let's make their self-imposed suicide quick for the family and painless for the people doing the drugs.

    But, since this forum is only for the regulating of marijuna, I still say I'm against legalizing it, and for all those who care about children, you should be too.

     

    DK

     

    I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.
    - John Wayne in the Shootist.

  • Sun, Apr 17 2011 7:42 PM In reply to

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    Isn't it interesting that if money is to be made, vices turn into virtues and if something was considered harmful, it is suddenly not only not harmful, but beneficial?

    First it's contraception. Then divorce. Then abortion. Then co-habitation. Then sodomy. Now pot.

    What other vices can the state leglize in order to keep confiscating money from workers and producers while ruining the health, lives and souls of the people?

    Why doesn't the state promote virtue, self-control, honesty, keeping ones vows, honoring and protecting human life, discouraging the ravaging of one's body through promiscuity and sodomy, stopping the treatment of  other's as simply modes of pleasure, and ending the senseless killing of the only truly innocent unborn child?

    Because they don't generate enough MONEY.

     

  • Tue, Apr 19 2011 2:32 AM In reply to

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    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

    Are you suggesting that using condoms while having sex with your significant other, with which you live, was at one time harmful? What you don't understand is that alcohol is legal.  Alcohol HAS been legal for over 70 years now.  At a point, it becomes a hinderance, when people abuse the substance. However, used responsibly it can prove to be a catalyst for a great evening.  Marijuana can do the same thing at a cheaper price.  Personally, while high, I have more control over my body functions, judgement, speech and appetite than when I'm drunk.  Why should you be allowed to decide whether I can handle myself or not?  Allow the police to do their job and monitor those that are high.  I've heard people use the defense that it's difficult for police to tell when people have been smoking.... Thus more proof of how controlled people are while on the substance. I don't understand people's urges to enforce their moral beliefs on others.

    If you are against contraceptives and abortion, then either stop having sex or continue having children.

    If you are against divorce, then don't get divorced.

    If you are against sodomy, then don't practice it.

    If you are against smoking marijuana, then don't smoke but don't continue judging those who do.

  • Tue, Apr 19 2011 2:14 PM In reply to

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    cmyska:
    I've heard people use the defense that it's difficult for police to tell when people have been smoking....
      

    I have also heard people use the defense:

    cmyska:
    Personally, while high, I have more control over my body functions, judgement, speech and appetite than when I'm drunk.
      It just shows how distorted your perceptions are/

    Impaired is impaired.  Dead is dead, and would you like me to use more one-liners?

    The simple fact is there are better ways of using medicinal marajuana than smoking it, for instance Cannabinoid-based medications include synthetic compounds, such as dronabinol (Marinol®) and nabilone (Cesamet®), which are FDA approved, and a new, chemically pure mixture of plant-derived THC and cannabidiol called Sativex®, formulated as a mouth spray and approved in Canada and parts of Europe for the relief of cancer-associated pain and spasticity and neuropathic pain in multiple sclerosis.  

    Which brings us to this:  There is no good reason other than taxes to decriminalize marajuana to smoke it except for taxes.  And, if taxes are the reason to legalize pot, what makes one think the state would allow you to grow your own rather than go to your local pothouse and buy the state-regulated-tax-stamped pack of pot there?

    Now imagine that the state will charge a state tax of $5.00 per pack of blunts.  How will that make you feel?  Special or just another tool of the state?

    Just sayin..

    DK

     

     

    I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.
    - John Wayne in the Shootist.

  • Tue, Apr 19 2011 8:41 PM In reply to

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     I'm suggesting that your smoking and drinking has affected your ability to think and act like a responsible adult.

    I'd also suggest your childish "if you don't like it don't do it" responses are one of the major reasons all of us are living under a nanny state where you are encouraged to do those things that HARM you, harm your family, and harm society while also trying to control every single thing one does.

    You think killing children, destroying marriages, practicing disease-causing, death causing acts of sodomy, and smoking pot are good things?

  • Tue, Apr 19 2011 8:51 PM In reply to

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     It seems that using logic and stating facts has little to no influence on those who insist doing something harmful to themselves should not only be legal, but embraced with gusto.

    The same, tired arguments are always made against keeping things illegal and because too many people only look for instant pleasure and gratification, rather than considering the consequences of their actions, we find our society becoming more and more disfunctional.

     

  • Thu, May 5 2011 5:00 PM In reply to

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    I could always get pot when I was a child, but never get my hands on tobacco or alcohol.  Dealers don't card.  The law actually hurts kids more then it protects them.  

    Pass House Bill 1550 to protect the children!

     

     

  • Thu, May 5 2011 6:01 PM In reply to

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    Why are you so against this?  Are you trying to save every ones soul?  Do you feel that if it were legal you would not have the strength to stay away from it?  Do you smoke, drink, or have you ever tried pot?  Is it a religious beliefs that has you so against pot?

    I want to smoke pot, it is fun and I like it.  The only reason I do not is because people like you that are hell bent on keeping it against the law.  Leave me alone and let me smoke pot on my own time, what business is it of yours? Do I cause you injury by smoking weed?  Does it hurt your feelings that I want to toke? I am a man and should have the right to make decisions for myself.  It is beside the point that you think it is wrong, I think that it is right.  We can argue back and forth about the hazards or what ever but that is irreverent.  This argument should not be about making pot legal, it should be about you forcing your beliefs on me.  I would never do that to someone.  It would be wrong for me to hold you down and make you smoke pot and here you are forcing me from it.  You are not protecting me you are just keeping from me something that brings me happiness.  I don't expect you to understand this because you have had different experiences then me.  Let me be happy and please vote yes.

    Besides (talking from experience), I could always get pot as a kid, dealers do not card.  Do you know how difficult it was for me as a kid to get tobacco or alcohol?

    Bill 1550 will prove beneficial for the people and state of Washington. 

     

  • Thu, May 5 2011 6:03 PM In reply to

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    I don't consider weed to be a sin

  • Thu, May 5 2011 6:26 PM In reply to

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    You make no sense Dk.  How many students are in that school?  lets just say 500.  That only represents 1% of students.  The statistics you yourself provided show that marijuana use in schools exceed 1%.  There is your proof sir.  Your inexperience, conspiracy theories on democrats using pot to take over and your fear blind you from reality.

  • Sat, May 7 2011 9:24 PM In reply to

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     I imagine you don't consider anything to be a sin.

  • Fri, May 13 2011 6:28 PM In reply to

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     Your statement is a perfect example of judgment placed before any investigation has been made.  You know nothing of my moral character but have swiftly labeled me as a person that is incapable of recognizing good from bad.  This is the same mental process you have used to judge prohibition.  I believe if you made a though investigation into the matter you would find that your stubborn stance on this is flawed.

    I do not smoke, use drugs and only drink occasionally.  So contrary to what you are probably thinking, no I choose not to smoke pot.

    My point is this;

    #1.  An adult has the right to choose to smoke pot, the government does not have the right to tell an adult not to.

    #2.  Prohibition does not work. Tax money is pouring into this government made problem.  It could be reversed and actually create revenue. The fact is people smoke pot.  The law about this issue has failed and is creating a monster that eats our tax money.

    #3.  I smoked pot when I was a kid.  I could get pot anytime I wanted, dealers DO NOT CARD.  Regulating this stuff would actually make it more difficult for children to get their hands on.  This is from experience, I know this to be factual.  Do you know how quickly I'd get kick out of a liquor store if I was 17 years old?

    It really does upset me and hurts my feelings that you would view me as an immoral person because of my view on this matter.  It's also disturbing that a person makes decisions on hear say and not their own investigations.  You should not believe everything you are told, that's dangerous.

     

  • Fri, May 13 2011 6:34 PM In reply to

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    "Why doesn't the state promote virtue, self-control, honesty, keeping ones vows, honoring and protecting human life, discouraging the ravaging of one's body through promiscuity and sodomy, stopping the treatment of  other's as simply modes of pleasure, and ending the senseless killing of the only truly innocent unborn child?"

     

    That is not the states job, that's why.

     

  • Thu, Jun 2 2011 3:43 PM In reply to

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    Prohibitionists are right,
    Marijuana is a "gate way" drug.
    A gate way to dictatorship
    Beer

  • Sat, Jul 2 2011 11:12 AM In reply to

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    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

    Thank You,

    The polls show that more 70% of hardworking,honest,responsible Americans most who do not use the drug approve of it's legalization.

    Ten years ago this was not the case, this is because as you put it prohibition does not work.

    We all learned that going to primer school, but getting that line of thinking to carry over to the Government is another matter.

    I speak with local governments and lobby heavily on the subject of medical marijuana, which is a real valid drug worthy of big pharm.

    Marinol is a FDA approved form of marijuana and yet we are spending vast amounts of time and fiscal funds to fight the natural plant.

    Nobody is steering the ship a.k.a "The War on Drugs" its just a wild west arena, where everyone gets a show.

    Americans For Safe Access

    www.safeaccessnow.org/ - Cached
    Americans for Safe Access ensures safe access and legal access to medical cannabis (medical marijuana) for therapeutic uses and research.

  • Mon, Jan 2 2012 8:01 PM In reply to

    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

     If marijuana has no proven medical benefits, than the USPTO (United States Patent & Trademark Office) better throw away millions of it's established benchmarks and research guidelines for issue of a patent.  Did it make a mistake on Patent # 6630507 and, therefore not qualified to judge the worthiness of inventions or a plants medical benefits?

    Or:

    Does money thrown at advertising agencies and politicians from the liquor industry make sensible legislation disappear like the health of a liver after infusion with alcohol.

     

  • Fri, Jan 13 2012 3:54 PM In reply to

    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

    Interesting...you are comparing killing children with smoking weed....hummm.... smoke a joint, kill a child...same thing? No wonder you don't want pot to be legal, you think it's the most evil thing in the world lol The only reason that it is "bad" is because it feels good. Candy is bad for you too right? Look what happens when you eat too much of it! Your teeth fall out. When the sugar is all out of your system it could lead to depression. It can be very addictive maybe more so then MaryJane......the government should take control of the situation and put candies under their thumb! We all should create a new organization...The CEA (candy enforcement administration). So if you are caught with a bag of reeses the cops can bust down the door to your home drag you out in hand cuffs and put you in jail. Take you to court then make you pay fines and give you a criminal record. A comparison of candy and Marijuana is a lot more realistic then comparing the killing of children and marijuana. If you would research the other side of this you would see how foolish it is to keep it under prohibition.
  • Sat, Apr 21 2012 10:14 AM In reply to

    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

     Maybe you are getting carried away with the candy. What about cafeine? The reason for it is for artifical energy. I know some people are just hateful when they need their fix of coffee or cola. Really. We are suppose to learn from history, and hopefully don't repeat the bad parts. We haven't. When we had prohibition this country produced more and newer crime than anytime in history. Hell, we started the American Mafia. We got alot of the same factors with weed, it is not going anywhere, it will always be here. We have supported all the allied crimes directly or indirectly with keeping weed illegal. Can't we now get together and petition that we can now get this on a general election? When one lists all the pros and cons of alcohol and weed, side by side, there are some things similar. But the biggest difference to me is the difference of someone whom smokes and someone that drinks alot. Who is more likely to go crazy? Who is more likely to hurt someone? I think we have the numbers in this country now if people we realize it and just stand up and stop this nonsense. Let's lessen the burden of taxes on our prisons, let's tax this industry and lessen the tax burden. We rave about our forefathers, which many smoked weed daily, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and Patrick Henry. Are we now better than these guys?

  • Sat, Apr 21 2012 2:53 PM In reply to

    Re: 2011 House Bill 1550 (Regulating the production, distribution, and sale of marijuana)

    LunaAzule:
    Patent # 6630507
     

      Not sure why you would quote that patent number since the patent office does not list it, so I am assuming that is a mistake on your part...  Here is a more relevent patent:  8,034,843  http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=2&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=85&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=cannabinoids&OS=cannabinoids&RS=cannabinoids

    But I am sure you will see what is wrong with your argument anyway.  Cannabinoids is a drug compound which can be taken in pill form and does not need to be inhaled (smoked).  So let's throw away your argument that legalized marajuan has medicinal purposes and throw away your patent number.  Any inhalation is not an issue because they could make inhalers that will deliver the drug if it is. 

    It is funny that to say that all of what is good in marajuana can be taken in pill form falls on deaf ears. 

    What is interesting is the everyone who argues for the legalization of marajuana mentions the founding fathers and the fact that they grew pot.  What is considered to be fact is that yes they grew the plant for the fiber as it was easier to grow than cotton and had a better tensil strength, what isn't proven that they smoked it, or even prefered it over tobacco, which was also grown by them.  The rest is speculation.

    But this is not about medicinal marajuna.  This is about legalization of marajuana.  Never mind the same arguments that have been use in cigarettes about lung cancer, secondary smoke issues etc. etc.  

    But, say that you want to legalzie marajuna.  That you want to have be sold it stores....  That you want it to be regulated and taxed just like cigarettes or liquor...  Are you willing to have LE arrest you for having an unregulated pot plant in your house or backyard?  Are you willing to have the state consficate your property what is now considered a misdemeanor?  Are you willing to have the state regulate anything?

    But since that you are, and the state just lost their monopoly on liquor stores, I guess it is good for the state to legalize and regulate pot since they NOW have all those empty buildings that used to be liquor stores and need to fill them them with something. 

    Just remember you've been warned.

     

     

    I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.
    - John Wayne in the Shootist.

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