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    2009 House Bill 1179 (using groundwater to water a lawn)

    Introduced in the House on January 14, 2009

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  • 01-15-2009 2:24 PM In reply to

    Re: 2009 House Bill 1179 (using groundwater to water a lawn)

     Wow. A strikeout  of the lawn watering exemption that would effectively criminalize all lawn watering by private permit exempt well owners.

    Good luck having yourselves taken seriously with this bill. Pretty much the most politically tone deaf water legislation perhaps in State history.  And that is saying something. 

    Don't ruin the chance for more substantive water resource legislation this year, please. Don't let this one out of committee.

    WAG

  • 01-19-2009 10:00 PM In reply to

    Re: 2009 House Bill 1179 (using groundwater to water a lawn)

    What's next,  I won't be able to breathe the air if I want to laugh but if I want to seriously consider this erosion of my freedoms the state will let me breathe.  I think its about time to move out of this socialist state.

  • 01-21-2009 4:20 PM In reply to

    Re: 2009 House Bill 1179 (using groundwater to water a lawn)

    Doesn't the bill have more to do with whether or not you use more than 5,000 gallons of water per day to water your lawn? Maybe I am mis-reading it.

  • 01-23-2009 4:05 PM In reply to

    Re: 2009 House Bill 1179 (using groundwater to water a lawn)

     

    Actually, the bill would eliminate the permit exemption to use ANY quantity of water for a lawn as it explicitly eliminates lawn watering as an exempt use. All lawn watering would then require a water right permit. Even more ridiculous, striking the exemption as it is written will not allow existing permit well owners to water their current lawns. Therefore, the bill effectively criminalizes the watering of existing lawns by existing permit exempt wells, not just future wells.

    I suppose you could argue that "domestic use" would include some lawn watering. However, if the law explicitly eliminates lawn watering as an exempted use, its then hard to argue it is an assumed domestic use that was intended by this new law to still be permissible. And there is nothing I have seen that indicates the reason behind the bill is to stop people from watering up to 5,000 gpd on their lawn. Since there is no lower limit proposed for lawn watering, it seems clear the intent is to eliminate the exemption to use any non-permitted water on a lawn altogether.

    The joke is that none of this is enforceable anyway. Its a waste of time and credibility on Mr Upthegrove's part. This bill will die and deserves to.

    And I think lawn watering is a waste of water. However, unenforceable and patently silly Nanny State tactics should not be used to reduce water being used on lawns.

    WAG

  • 01-27-2009 8:09 PM In reply to

    Re: 2009 House Bill 1179 (using groundwater to water a lawn)

    Thanks for the clarification. I agree, if this was the intent of the bill, I would rather see clear language on what uses are exempt, which ones are not, and where does one cross the limit. 

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